Cognito wrote:Diaz had a great collection of these rare artifacts which is why he and Niven hit it off so well when Niven was down there working on some civic and mining projects for the Mexican government shortly before Villa and Zapata threw a big monkey wrench into his whole trip.
The Mexican Revolution that began in 1910 and the outbreak of World War I in 1914 took a serious toll on German businesses in that country. Dorenberg, Peterson & Co. wound up on the "
Additions to the Enemy Trading List" as published by the New York Times on April 22, 1918. See:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.h ... 946996D6CFHate it when that happens!

Well, I'm definitelty going to have to go on another great excavation and find my copy of:
Buried Cities, Forgotten Gods: William Niven's Life of Discovery and Revolution in Mexico and the American Southwest
By Robert S. Wicks and Roland H. Harrison (Texas Tech University Press)
That's because you just reminded me of the German geologist who told Niven that based upon the stratigraphy of an old river covering one of Niven's buried ruins, it was at least 12,000. years old. I can't for the life of me recall the geologist's name but I posted it on one the threads here before one of the hackings. The guy was down there on business for the Germans and he wasn't one of Churchward's gang of Blavatskyites as far as I can tell. Niven wasn't either and when he hit a blank wall trying to figure out what and when all these odd artifacts and ruins were, his fatal mistake was in letting Churchward have a go at it out of pure frustration. I say fatal because Churchward pulled strings to make sure Niven's no nonsense field reports never got published while his Mu fantasies were taking off. Niven's reports and no doubt those of other work the German was working on are still out there somewhere and maybe some are in the lists you've turned up. I just have to find my copy of Buried Cities to give you some solid references to work with. Here's a little snip from the Texas Tech University Press description:
Niven, however, did continue on and discovered a remarkable expanse of ruins in the rugged state of Guerrero along Mexico’s western coast. During the early 1890s, Niven’s explorations were sponsored by the American Museum of Natural History. Later, he continued to explore on his own. His photographs, letters, diaries, and newspaper accounts are now the only source of information on many sites that were later destroyed by grave robbers, neglect, and the turmoil of the Mexican Revolution in 1911.
His later discovery of twenty-six hundred inscribed stone tablets in the Valley of Mexico aroused considerable controversy, and inspired James Churchward to put forth an occult interpretation of the origins of the Native Americans in The Lost Continent of Mu (1926). They remain controversial to this day.
The writer Katherine Anne Porter frequented Niven’s excavations in the Valley of Mexico and based her first published short story, "María Concepción," on her experiences there. She would write that the "Old Man never carried a gun, never locked up his money, sat on political dynamite and human volcanoes and never bothered to answer his slanderers. He bore a charmed life. Nothing would ever happen to him."
Niven was planning a book about his experiences, but was unable to complete it because of ill health. Buried Cities, Forgotten Gods is based upon his surviving manuscripts and personal papers.
I've backed off from the academic bickerfest surrounding a lot these old sites to clear my head for several months in between making a few forays into the hinterlands to find some new stuff to crank up my enthusiasm for the subject again. In doing so, I've returned to an old favorite of mine, obscure narratives from the period between the two big wars, which usually involve somebody getting caught in a crossfire in some nasty little skirmish everybody's forgotten about. Also in trying to walk that fine line between woo and dissident archaeology, I stumbled across an archive of Naturalist and Science reports from Kansas in the 1880's. I did this in the course of stifling the nagging insistence of a Theosophist friend that I read one of Blavatsky's random lists of correspondences with American explorers and naturalists. Of course in the crosseyed delirium of following breadcrumbs down the rabbit runs of the internet, I neglected to leave any of my own to get back to that spot because I wasn't really expecting to find anything but light entertainment. However, this old Kansas bone doctor was telling about finding ruins buried beneath several feet of guano (which I thought was ironically appropriate) on an island off the Peruvian coast and corresponding walls and ruins on the mainland. By his calculations of the rate of deposition of those guano deposits they were way too many thousands of years old. Normally, I'd be tempted to blow this off as hyperbole or typical 19th century innaccuracy or even a Blavatskyite fudging the figures to fit. Then I got to thinking about all those 5,000 year old ruins and pyramids popping up all along the Peruvian coast in the last decade and thought just maybe the old coot may have really found something ahead of his time. On the other hand it might just be something that's been debunked to detritus a long time ago. Anyway, about that same time I stumbled upon a little known conflict that was going on between Peru and Bolivia at that time, which was no doubt motivated by the rich deposits of potash and guano down on the southern end of Peru; Chile may have been mixed up in it too but fog of war/internet surfing and all that. The area was ceded to Peru and there's a tourist resort around there now that I also had never heard of but came up again when I was following the Chilean earthquake news. I'd been thinking for quite a while there was an American Gobekli Tepe buried in the bird manure down there somewhere and it might be that it's buried in the equivalent paper manure as well. Every now and then someone finds a diamond ring in the sewer, you know.
